Unofficial File parts/77182.dat
File Header:
0 Slope 10 x 2 x 2 Curved with Rounded Corner - Right
0 Name: 77182.dat
0 Author: Ulrich Röder [UR]
0 !LDRAW_ORG Unofficial_Part
0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt
0 BFC CERTIFY CCW
0 !KEYWORDS Set 10295, Porsche, Car
Status:
2 subfiles aren't certified. (CCSSN)
Size: 398 bytes
Reviewers' certifications:
GeraldLasser=novote MMR1988=certify Philo=certify
Required (unofficial) subfiles:
Needs more votes. (CN)
Needs admin review. (CCN)Related (unofficial) subfiles:
(none)
File reviews and updates:
At Tue Mar 23 07:55:01 2021, the following review was posted:
Reviewer: Cheenzo
Certification: novote
Comments:
Some edges are missing on that part and 77180 such as the following:
2 4 6 -4 -30 -2.282 -4 -30
2 4 -24.64 40 -170 -26.955 39.985 -165.307
2 4 -6.9384 36 -177.3912 -10 36 -178
2 4 -10 36 -178 -13.0616 36 -177.3912
Reviewer: Cheenzo
Certification: novote
Comments:
Some edges are missing on that part and 77180 such as the following:
2 4 6 -4 -30 -2.282 -4 -30
2 4 -24.64 40 -170 -26.955 39.985 -165.307
2 4 -6.9384 36 -177.3912 -10 36 -178
2 4 -10 36 -178 -13.0616 36 -177.3912
At Tue Mar 23 08:15:01 2021, the following review was posted:
Reviewer: Philo
Certification: hold
Comments:
Confirmed...
Also:
- looks good, but imho much too fine detailed. Back cylinder should be normal resolution!
- one of the pair should use the other mirrored
And... what about this? https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-23790-post-40414.html#pid40414
Reviewer: Philo
Certification: hold
Comments:
Confirmed...
Also:
- looks good, but imho much too fine detailed. Back cylinder should be normal resolution!
- one of the pair should use the other mirrored
And... what about this? https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-23790-post-40414.html#pid40414
At Tue Mar 23 11:05:01 2021, the following review was posted:
Reviewer: GeraldLasser
Certification: novote
Comments:
it's amazing how your and my curve math :-)
https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-23790-post-40645.html#pid40645
why don't you subfile it to have it mirrored? so the opposite parts needs only the mirrored subfile and the stud
Simplify the inside, this does not need so many surfaces
Also the outside could be reduced, where the part is nearly flat. As it connects to the 6091, which has a prim as surface, the 6091 benefits from the smoothing, this cannot be applied at this part, so I was also split between using more surfaces or the standard resolution of the 6091, I finally chose the 6091.
I would strongly advise against using a primitive on the straight rounded section. This will generate holes when the renderer (e.g. Studio) is doing prim substitution
There are a number of stray lines in under the surface around the STUD4:
2 1 -10 35.016 -178 -13.0616 36 -177.3912
2 1 -8.7502 34.4852 -177.7515 -10 35.016 -178
2 1 -8.7502 34.4852 -177.7515 -7.3921 34 -177.4814
2 1 -7.3923 34 -177.4813 -6.9386 33.8378 -177.391
2 1 -6.9386 33.8378 -177.391 -4.3436 32.2902 -175.6574
2 1 -15.6568 24 -155.6568 -17.391 24 -153.0614
2 1 -15.6568 34 -175.6568 -17.391 34 -173.0614
2 1 -15.6568 34 -175.6568 -13.0615 34 -177.391
2 1 -4.343 34 -175.657 -6.9384 34 -177.3912
2 1 -14.2426 34 -174.2426 -15.5432 34 -172.2961
2 1 -10 34 -176.0002 -12.2961 34 -175.5433
2 1 -17.391 24 -153.0614 -18 24 -150
2 1 -17.391 34 -173.0614 -18 34 -170
2 1 -16.0002 32.875 -170 -15.5432 32.875 -172.2961
2 1 -13.0615 24 -157.391 -15.6568 24 -155.6568
2 1 -6.9384 34 -177.3912 -9.9999 34 -178.0002
2 1 -12.2961 34 -175.5433 -14.2426 34 -174.2426
2 1 -13.0615 34 -177.391 -9.9999 34 -178.0002
STray Surface:
3 14 -5.543 36 -182.296 -8 36 -181.1 -4.3432 32.2897 -175.6568
Reviewer: GeraldLasser
Certification: novote
Comments:
it's amazing how your and my curve math :-)
https://forums.ldraw.org/thread-23790-post-40645.html#pid40645
why don't you subfile it to have it mirrored? so the opposite parts needs only the mirrored subfile and the stud
Simplify the inside, this does not need so many surfaces
Also the outside could be reduced, where the part is nearly flat. As it connects to the 6091, which has a prim as surface, the 6091 benefits from the smoothing, this cannot be applied at this part, so I was also split between using more surfaces or the standard resolution of the 6091, I finally chose the 6091.
I would strongly advise against using a primitive on the straight rounded section. This will generate holes when the renderer (e.g. Studio) is doing prim substitution
There are a number of stray lines in under the surface around the STUD4:
2 1 -10 35.016 -178 -13.0616 36 -177.3912
2 1 -8.7502 34.4852 -177.7515 -10 35.016 -178
2 1 -8.7502 34.4852 -177.7515 -7.3921 34 -177.4814
2 1 -7.3923 34 -177.4813 -6.9386 33.8378 -177.391
2 1 -6.9386 33.8378 -177.391 -4.3436 32.2902 -175.6574
2 1 -15.6568 24 -155.6568 -17.391 24 -153.0614
2 1 -15.6568 34 -175.6568 -17.391 34 -173.0614
2 1 -15.6568 34 -175.6568 -13.0615 34 -177.391
2 1 -4.343 34 -175.657 -6.9384 34 -177.3912
2 1 -14.2426 34 -174.2426 -15.5432 34 -172.2961
2 1 -10 34 -176.0002 -12.2961 34 -175.5433
2 1 -17.391 24 -153.0614 -18 24 -150
2 1 -17.391 34 -173.0614 -18 34 -170
2 1 -16.0002 32.875 -170 -15.5432 32.875 -172.2961
2 1 -13.0615 24 -157.391 -15.6568 24 -155.6568
2 1 -6.9384 34 -177.3912 -9.9999 34 -178.0002
2 1 -12.2961 34 -175.5433 -14.2426 34 -174.2426
2 1 -13.0615 34 -177.391 -9.9999 34 -178.0002
STray Surface:
3 14 -5.543 36 -182.296 -8 36 -181.1 -4.3432 32.2897 -175.6568
At Tue Mar 23 13:25:03 2021, the following review was posted:
Reviewer: UR
Certification: novote
Comments:
The important things first:
Ouh! .... I didn't notice that someone was already working on the part ... Sorry Gerald !!!
To the object:
*
Resolution:
As far as I can see, there are no adequate 16 and 48 primitives for the unusual surface.
The goal was to strive for a resolution that withstands photo-realistic rendering and optimally meets the shapely curvature.
*
Resolution reference for this:
The longitudinal curve (all line points of the curve of the x-axis brought to zero) comes from the part 45705.dat from Paul Easter.
*
With a resolution of 22.5 degrees on the longitudinal axis with 1-4cyli.dat as a reference, the render image was too faceted.
Correspondingly better in hi-res.
*
Mirror the part:
Yes...Philippe
... had put it on hold for this morning for the time being, under the aspect
also to create the surface as a subpart ...
... as is so often the case, printed versions appear at some point.
thanks Philippe and Vincent
Reviewer: UR
Certification: novote
Comments:
The important things first:
Ouh! .... I didn't notice that someone was already working on the part ... Sorry Gerald !!!
To the object:
*
Resolution:
As far as I can see, there are no adequate 16 and 48 primitives for the unusual surface.
The goal was to strive for a resolution that withstands photo-realistic rendering and optimally meets the shapely curvature.
*
Resolution reference for this:
The longitudinal curve (all line points of the curve of the x-axis brought to zero) comes from the part 45705.dat from Paul Easter.
*
With a resolution of 22.5 degrees on the longitudinal axis with 1-4cyli.dat as a reference, the render image was too faceted.
Correspondingly better in hi-res.
*
Mirror the part:
Yes...Philippe
... had put it on hold for this morning for the time being, under the aspect
also to create the surface as a subpart ...
... as is so often the case, printed versions appear at some point.
thanks Philippe and Vincent
At Tue Mar 23 14:25:01 2021, the following review was posted:
Reviewer: UR
Certification: novote
Comments:
We both wrote comments at the same time, so I was only able to read yours afterwards.
I actually wanted to send you a PM about this
Out of fairness:
If you can use anything from my files .. benefit from it.
Otherwise I have no problem deleting my files and you will create yours for them.
Let me know.
PS: the render results speak for themselves ... neither with studio nor Modo and Cinema 4d are no "holes" or other fragmentations to be seen if you use the hi-res part.
(related to "6091" section)
Whereby the last two render mentioned do not use substitution - neither do they need ... because of their usage structure. At the front in the "spaghetti" area, however, something is still wrong.
Presumably cond-lines.
Reviewer: UR
Certification: novote
Comments:
We both wrote comments at the same time, so I was only able to read yours afterwards.
I actually wanted to send you a PM about this
Out of fairness:
If you can use anything from my files .. benefit from it.
Otherwise I have no problem deleting my files and you will create yours for them.
Let me know.
PS: the render results speak for themselves ... neither with studio nor Modo and Cinema 4d are no "holes" or other fragmentations to be seen if you use the hi-res part.
(related to "6091" section)
Whereby the last two render mentioned do not use substitution - neither do they need ... because of their usage structure. At the front in the "spaghetti" area, however, something is still wrong.
Presumably cond-lines.
At Tue Mar 23 15:55:01 2021, the following review was posted:
Reviewer: Philo
Certification: hold
Comments:
Sorry to insist, but clearly resolution is much too high. Eg. back should match 1 16 0 -8 20 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 6091.dat. Reduce the number of segment by 3 on X axis, by 2 in z axis and you'll be about right.
As noted by Gerald, it's even worse for inside which could have about 1/20 the number of triangles without any adverse effect.
Reviewer: Philo
Certification: hold
Comments:
Sorry to insist, but clearly resolution is much too high. Eg. back should match 1 16 0 -8 20 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 6091.dat. Reduce the number of segment by 3 on X axis, by 2 in z axis and you'll be about right.
As noted by Gerald, it's even worse for inside which could have about 1/20 the number of triangles without any adverse effect.
At Tue Mar 23 16:55:01 2021, the following review was posted:
Reviewer: UR
Certification: novote
Comments:
Addendum:
briefly researched:
*
From February 16, 2021
https://zombinationgebaut.com/lego-10295-porsche-911-im-review-114491/
On February 27th, 2021 I started my work on the part.
So it was impossible for me to see at the time that anyone started doing it.
But still my mistake ... should have noted that under PIWO.
But no matter ... my offer to delete is still there.
Reviewer: UR
Certification: novote
Comments:
Addendum:
briefly researched:
*
From February 16, 2021
https://zombinationgebaut.com/lego-10295-porsche-911-im-review-114491/
On February 27th, 2021 I started my work on the part.
So it was impossible for me to see at the time that anyone started doing it.
But still my mistake ... should have noted that under PIWO.
But no matter ... my offer to delete is still there.
At Tue Mar 23 17:15:02 2021, the following review was posted:
Reviewer: UR
Certification: novote
Comments:
corrected link:
https://zusammengebaut.com/lego-10295-porsche-911-im-review-114491/
Reviewer: UR
Certification: novote
Comments:
corrected link:
https://zusammengebaut.com/lego-10295-porsche-911-im-review-114491/
At Tue Mar 23 17:35:01 2021, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: UR
Existing certification-votes were deleted.
Submitted by: UR
Existing certification-votes were deleted.
At Tue Mar 23 20:05:01 2021, the following review was posted:
Reviewer: GeraldLasser
Certification: novote
Comments:
Keep your file up, no worries!
I tried also a render with Studio, there was no gap as well.
Reviewer: GeraldLasser
Certification: novote
Comments:
Keep your file up, no worries!
I tried also a render with Studio, there was no gap as well.
At Thu Apr 7 11:50:01 2022, the following review was posted:
Reviewer: Philo
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.
Reviewer: Philo
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.
At Sun Apr 17 20:35:01 2022, the following review was posted:
Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.
Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.
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