Unofficial File parts/32074c02.dat
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0 Technic Competition Cannon with Round Bottom - Body
0 Name: 32074c02.dat
0 Author: Sylvain Sauvage [SLS]
0 !LDRAW_ORG Unofficial_Shortcut
0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt

0 BFC CERTIFY CCW

Status:
2 subfiles aren't certified. (SSX)
Size: 371 bytes
Reviewers' certifications:
Steffen=novote
Required (unofficial) subfiles:
~Moved to 71830-f1
Status: 1 subfile isn't certified. (CSF)
Download: parts/71830.dat
Related (unofficial) subfiles:
(none)
File reviews and updates:
At Fri Sep 16 12:40:01 2016, the file was initially submitted.
Submitted by: SLS
Comments:
Mechanical assembly.

At Mon Nov 21 11:30:01 2016, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: Steffen
Comments:
added BFC statement

At Tue Dec 27 20:45:01 2016, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.

At Sun Dec 10 18:50:00 2017, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Philo
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.

At Fri Dec 29 23:35:00 2017, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.

At Sat Jan 20 20:20:01 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: dulcaoin
Certification: hold
Comments:
57029 RELEASE HOUSE 6X2X2 should not include the front cap ("LID" in official parlance), which this does.

At Sat Jan 20 20:40:01 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: SLS
Certification: novote
Comments:
This's a mechanical assembly. It is necessary for LDD to LDraw conversion and as an easy way to have its three parts together so you only have to add the trigger in the position you want (armed / shot).

The ID is the one used in LDD for the same assembly (except LDD doesn't have springs). LDD's IDs are often wrong (subpart for assembly), so if you know the proper ID, the ID can still be corrected.
At Sun Jan 21 16:35:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: dulcaoin
Certification: hold
Comments:
I do have correct IDs, that's why I'd want to see this fixed. It's always (since James Jessiman) been my job to try the keep the numbers accurate. I don't always get listened to, but I always try to speak up when I see issues.

The part being modeled _here_ is technically a combination of 32074 and 32067, which are both parts of
76100 RELEASE HOUSING = 32074 + 32075 + 32067 + 71830

57029 (which is a different molding from what you have here) takes the place of 32074 in a newer version

57796 RELEASE HOUSING 6X2X2 = 57029 + 57759 + 32075 + 71830

Even without the cap (32067), this part (32074) without the cap is not an accurate representation of 57029 (and 32067 is not an accurate representation of 57759, for that matter).

The item (assembly) modeled in LDD is 57796, 57029 and 57759 are accurate in LDD.

At Sun Jan 21 17:30:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: SLS
Certification: novote
Comments:
Okay, so it's not "57029 should not include the lid," it's "this is the number of a subpart of a different variant" :)

I hadn't noticed it was the wrong variant with regard to LDD but the assembly is still relevant. So, what about 31074c01 for this one?

(BTW, the LDD assembly of the whole cannon is 57796, with 61280 (not 57759) as number for the catch/trigger subpart and 57029 for the body, lid included. I'll stand by my "LDD's IDs are often wrong." ;) )
At Sun Jan 21 18:15:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: arezey
Certification: novote
Comments:
"57796 RELEASE HOUSING 6X2X2 = 57029 + 57759 + 32075 + 71830"

Thanks for this information. I've been planning on modeling the newer cannon soon. In fact, I have a specimen on my desk right now and I can verify first-hand that the new cannon has 57029 written on it.

Can you specify which of the other components is which? 32075 is obviously the trigger and I'm aware that it's reused.

At Mon Jan 22 14:30:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: dulcaoin
Certification: novote
Comments:
SLS, I was quoting the LEGO database, not LDD. LDD DOES show the proper number for the assembly (57796) to the user (not 57029), I have no idea what you're when it's exported.

arezy, I laid out the two lists above in the same order between the two assemblies, but just to be clear:
57796 RELEASE HOUSING 6X2X2, ASS. is a newer 76100 RELEASE HOUSING

57029 RELEASE HOUSE 2X6X2 (57796) corresponds to 32074 RELEASE HOUSING, CYLINDER (76100)
57759 LID FOR RELEASE HOUSE (57796) corresponds to 32067 RELEASE HOUSING, COVER (76100)
61280 RELEASE HOUSING, CATCH (57796) corresponds to 32057 RELEASE HOUSING, CATCH (76100)
71830 RELEASE HOUSING, SPRING is the same on both parts

At Mon Jan 22 17:10:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: SLS
Certification: novote
Comments:
You can see the component parts of an assembly (aka subparts) when you enable the extended tips (is that a developper mode only option? I forget).
You can also see them in the LIF.
And you can search for them (57029 or 61280 will give you 57796, 57759 will give you nothing).

The (57029+55759) subassembly is called 57029 in LDD. They just use one ID, they don't create another one like we can do with c## suffixes.
Besides, some variants aren't recognised or are dumped together as aliases.
That's why I say IDs are often wrong in LDD.

When exporting, LDD exports the subparts. When importing, LDD imports the subparts and then reassemble them into the corresponding assembly (it makes for funny pairs when you have multiple assemblies with the same subparts, like all the electric parts with separate plugs).
That's why I need to know the ID used by LDD.
And that's why I used LDD's ID for this part, without noticing it wasn't the right variant we had in LDraw.

Anyway, all that is just explanation, not justification. As I said, I propose to rename that part 31074c01. If no one argues against it, I'll submit the changes in a few days.

At Mon Jan 22 17:30:01 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: arezey
Certification: novote
Comments:
Please mail Chris for the renaming.

At Thu Jan 25 07:49:51 2018 part 'parts/57029.dat' was renamed to 'parts/31074c01.dat'.
At Thu Jan 25 07:52:53 2018 part 'parts/31074c01.dat' was renamed to 'parts/32074c02.dat'.
At Thu Jan 25 18:15:01 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: novote
Comments:
so type needs to be changed to shortcut?

At Thu Jan 25 18:35:00 2018, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: SLS
Comments:
It was. It is ;)

Existing certification-votes were deleted.
At Thu Jan 25 18:40:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.

At Fri Feb 2 20:50:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: hold
Comments:
voting hold until the numbering problems of
76100
76100c01
32074c01
are solved

At Thu May 23 21:10:01 2019, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: novote
Comments:
after such a long time I do not remember what those problems were.
--> removing hold