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0 ~Technic Shield  5 x  5 with Carved Metal Blade Half
0 Name: s\45274s01.dat
0 Author: Santeri Piippo [arezey]
0 !LDRAW_ORG Unofficial_Subpart
0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt

0 BFC CERTIFY CCW

Status:
Certified! (ACCX)
Size: 136787 bytes

Reviewers' certifications:

MagFors=certify
cwdee=certify
mikeheide=certify

Required (unofficial) subfiles:
(none)

Related (unofficial) files:
(none)

File reviews and updates:

At Tue Dec 24 22:35:03 2013, the file was initially submitted.
Submitted by: arezey
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At Tue Dec 24 22:45:01 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: arezey
Certification: novote
Comments:
over double the size of s\44937s01.dat o_O

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At Tue Dec 24 23:10:01 2013, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: arezey
Comments:
Made two edges conditional as they should've been in the first place

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At Wed Dec 25 12:50:03 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: hold
Comments:
There is an edgeline missing on top where the half round cutout is made in the top surface IMHO.

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At Wed Dec 25 18:40:02 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: arezey
Certification: novote
Comments:
I cannot find the missing edgeline, got a picture or coordinates? I did notice a missing conditional line though...

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At Wed Dec 25 21:25:06 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: hold
Comments:
If you think it should be a cond. line I think that will be ok.

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At Thu Dec 26 14:00:09 2013, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: arezey
Comments:
added some missing edges

Existing certification-votes were deleted.
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At Thu Dec 26 14:30:03 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: certify
Comments:
You catched it :)

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At Thu Dec 26 21:30:08 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: hold
Comments:
Missing edge line and one edge that should be a condline here and here:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/MMR88/LDraw/45274s01b_zpsd5c9dd33.png
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/MMR88/LDraw/45274s01a_zpsd986d549.png
And hairline gap here:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/MMR88/LDraw/45274s01c_zps5cc106e9.png

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At Fri Dec 27 01:05:02 2013, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: arezey
Comments:
> Missing edge line and one edge that should be a condline here and here:
> http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/MMR88/LDraw/45274s01b_zpsd5c9dd33.png
Fixed

> http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/MMR88/LDraw/45274s01a_zpsd986d549.png
Fixed

> And hairline gap here:
> http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/MMR88/LDraw/45274s01c_zps5cc106e9.png
That's no gap... but rather an unwanted edgeline poking through. Fixed.

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At Fri Dec 27 08:00:07 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: hold
Comments:
The cond. lines on the left and on the right of the cutout are wrong places. They should be on the other side of the triangle.

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At Fri Dec 27 15:10:06 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: arezey
Certification: novote
Comments:
hrmmm.. huh? Please elaborate?

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At Fri Dec 27 15:20:18 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: hold
Comments:
You have an email.

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At Fri Dec 27 16:50:20 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: novote
Comments:
If I run this file through Edger2, I get nearly 400 unmatched edgelines. Mostly t-junctions.
I get 8 new edges and 51 new conditional lines.

Apart from that I see these errors:
1.)
There's a hole here:
2 4 31.75 -2 44.5 30.444 -2 41.13
2.)
and this line is not right:
2 4 10.5 0 64.75 8.25 0 62.25
The quad next to it should be split into two.
3.)
Area here is overhanging the edge:
2 4 29.479 -15.5 34.763 29.742 -15.5 36.085
2 4 29.742 -15.5 36.085 29.79 -15.5 36.814
4.)
Missing cond-lines in the splitting plane, between the subfiles, here:
5 14 0 -7.6 -4 0 -4 -10 3 -4 -9.802 -3 -4 -9.802
5 14 0 -14.5 10 0 -11.8 4 1.531 -11.618 3.696 -1.531 -11.618 3.696
5 14 0 -17.5 20 0 -14.5 10 2.61 -17.5 20.172 -2.61 -17.5 20.172
5 14 0 -18.5 30 0 -17.5 20 1.305 -18.5 30.086 -1.305 -18.5 30.086
but also on the underside.
5.)
The two fingers in the "argh"-section (?) is protruding below the "flats" surface
6.)
this cond-line is missing:
5 14 2.588 -14.5 30.341 3.827 -14.5 30.761 7.654 -13.5 21.522 3.444 -14.5 31.685

Please don't get me wrong. Impressive work, that makes me curious of LDForge.
But I also see a lot of calculated errors, that needs to be manualy removed.
Ytruder is a good tool, but it creates t-junctions.
I see a lot of big quads cut into smaller triangles. SlicerPro or Intersector?
Coverer is a better tool for creating surfaces.
Are Unificator used in the process? It could get rid of some of the small/thin triangles/quads.



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At Sun Dec 29 12:35:04 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: arezey
Certification: novote
Comments:
Honestly, with all due respect, this sounds very much like nitpicking to me. I know there's t-junctions, but I really don't feel like correcting artifacts that are not there. I am convinced that if t-junctions cause artifacts, at least when all three points have same coordinates on two axes, the problem is in the graphics card and/or driver.

I know the two curved sections cut through the flats but I don't want to cause extra triangles by intersectoring it... for what gain? This part doesn't exist in translucent colors.

If you insist that these problems are to be fixed you're free to do that.. but I don't see any problems here. The part looks good to me and thus is good enough IMO.

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At Sun Dec 29 13:10:05 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: hold
Comments:
The hold vote is from me and i have send an email to you.
From my point of view just correct these two conditional edelines and all will be fine :)

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At Sun Dec 29 22:45:22 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: hold
Comments:
Yes, I'm nitpicking, but think I'm picking for a good reason. I belive you are trying out your tool.
Or don't you want constructive criticism?

I've learnt to accept t-junctions, and most in this file are acceptable,
but if they are created by your tool, then I must ask why.
I know that we many times don't care much about creating good meshes, but I always try to do that.

Please have a look at the areas I'm pointing to.
Gaps in the design and surfaces not matching the edges are IMO never acceptable.


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At Mon Jun 23 14:50:05 2014, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: arezey
Comments:
- fixed various problems
- MagFors's 5.) left unchanged; since it doesn't cause any rendering problems so it doesn't have to be clipped. This part was never manufactured as transparent.
- as for unmatched edges, I consider those a non-problem and won't change my stance on that without solid proof that it causes clear rendering issues that are visible to end-users.

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At Mon Jun 23 21:55:02 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: novote
Comments:

The only thing still bugging me is the cond-lines here:
5 4 20 -11 5.36 18.696 -11.127 5.031 18.753 -11 4.744 17.321 -13.411 10
5 4 10.352 -11 1.364 11.304 -11.121 1.969 11 -11.818 3.5 11.458 -11 1.739
Both lines are missplaced

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At Tue Jun 24 00:15:03 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: arezey
Certification: novote
Comments:
Edger2 generated that... so I guess the mesh is a little 'shifted' at that point.

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At Sat Jun 28 12:00:13 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: hold
Comments:
WARNING "45274s01.dat" Line 1881: Identical to line 1823: 5 24 21.55 0 45.83 21.55 -12.801 45.83 21.485 -12.827 45.757 23.005 0 49.529

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At Sat Jun 28 16:10:14 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: novote
Comments:

You can't allways rely on our tools to do all the work.
Sometimes you have to roll up your sleeves and manually edit the code.
Please, correct the cond-lines.

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At Sat Jun 28 20:00:06 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: hold
Comments:
Line 1815: Coplanarity. 4 16 21.485 -12.827 45.757 19.621 -13.5 43.651 21.55 0 45.83 21.55 -12.801 45.83
Line 1881: Double lines found (1823) 5 24 21.55 0 45.83 21.55 -12.801 45.83 21.485 -12.827 45.757 23.005 0 49.529
This is what DATHeader detected.

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At Sat Jun 28 23:25:01 2014, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: arezey
Comments:
should be fixed now, please re-check

Existing certification-votes were deleted.
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At Sun Jun 29 08:10:03 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: novote
Comments:

I think you should add these condlines too:
5 24 1.305 -18.5 30.086 0 -18.5 30 0 -17.5 20 1.175 -18.5 31.077
5 24 2.588 -18.5 30.341 1.305 -18.5 30.086 2.61 -17.5 20.172 2.329 -18.5 31.307
5 24 3 -18.5 30.481 2.588 -18.5 30.341 3 -18.341 28.803 3 -18.5 31.534


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At Sun Jun 29 14:20:04 2014, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: arezey
Comments:
Thanks, added.

Existing certification-votes were deleted.
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At Sun Jun 29 15:05:07 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: certify
Comments:

Great!

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At Sun Jun 29 16:00:05 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.

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At Mon Jun 30 10:30:03 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: cwdee
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.


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