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File Header:

0 Sticker  1.7 x  1.7 Round with Motor
0 Name: 4544045f.dat
0 Author: Michael Heidemann [mikeheide]
0 !LDRAW_ORG Unofficial_Part
0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt

0 BFC CERTIFY CCW

0 !KEYWORDS Set 7643

0 !HISTORY 2011-07-13 [Steffen] changed color 383 to 179, used 4-4cylc2.dat, changed underside color to black
0 !HISTORY 2011-12-11 [Steffen] changed color 179 to 80
0 !HISTORY 2012-08-09 [PTadmin] Official Update 2012-02
0 !HISTORY 2016-07-02 [cwdee]   Updated description
0 !HISTORY 2016-12-31 [PTadmin] Official Update 2016-01
0 !HISTORY 2017-07-03 [cwdee]   Use cylinder primitive with conditional lines
0 !HISTORY 2017-08-19 [MagFors] used ring primitives
0 !HISTORY 2018-03-30 [Steffen] changed backside color to 16

Status:
Certified! (ACCF)
Size: 5117 bytes

Reviewers' certifications:

MMR1988=certify
MagFors=novote
Philo=certify
Steffen=novote
cwdee=certify

Required (unofficial) subfiles:
(none)

Related (unofficial) files:
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File reviews and updates:

At Sat Jul 8 19:55:01 2017, the file was initially submitted.
Submitted by: cwdee
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At Thu Aug 17 19:45:01 2017, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: cwdee
Comments:
Correct primitive

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At Sun Aug 20 16:25:01 2017, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: MagFors
Comments:
Used more primitives.

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At Tue Feb 6 23:15:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.

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At Thu Mar 29 21:35:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: certify
Comments:
Is it was already official the underside colour needs to stay black. :-(

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At Thu Mar 29 21:50:01 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: hold
Comments:

I think we need to make a definitive decision here.
Is it allowed, or not, to change the backside of a once official sticker, to remove the coloured backside?

IMO, and I think Max agree, it is not correct.

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At Thu Mar 29 21:55:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: novote
Comments:
Retracted hold...
Personally I would like to change the background back to main colour.


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At Thu Mar 29 22:15:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: certify
Comments:
making a previously hardcoded backside color 16
is not a hurting change.
if that is forbidden, then we can do no changes to parts at all to "keep them downwards compatible".
keeping things downwards compatible is a delicate and thoughtful weighing between allowing to change things and keep them as they were.

changing the back color of a sticker (which you anyway rarely can see) definitely is not breaking models, and if someone wants the black color back, he can still do so by applying color 16.

having hardcoded the color of this sticker here was an error,
as the sticker spec says "use color 16".

fixing such trivial things should not require us
to re-issue that sticker in a second file.

we are not doing nuclear research here.

this still is a simple LEGO sticker.

keep things simple and easy.

having to re-issue this file with backside color 16 in a second file is a clear overshooting.

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At Fri Mar 30 08:05:01 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Philo
Certification: certify
Comments:
I am happy with either versions...

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At Fri Mar 30 09:05:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: hold
Comments:

If I'm reading you right, Steffen, we should not change a once official sticker with a hard coded, coloured backside.
Then I think we should undo some of the un-colouring that have been done lately to recycled stickers.
Like this one: 56711gc01

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At Fri Mar 30 10:30:01 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: certify
Comments:
hmm, I think I was misunderstood...
I'll boil my point down:

I think it should be possible to change a hardcoded backside color of an official sticker to color 16.

That's a normal part correction IMHO.

We should not be forced to re-issue that part in a second file with different back color.

That's overkill to me.

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At Fri Mar 30 10:30:01 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: novote
Comments:
backside color is not color 16

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At Fri Mar 30 10:35:00 2018, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: Steffen
Comments:
changed backside color to 16

Existing certification-votes were deleted.
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At Fri Mar 30 10:45:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.

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At Fri Mar 30 11:05:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Philo
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.

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At Fri Mar 30 18:10:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: novote
Comments:

I don't like this change, but I'm outvoted.
All I wanted was some consistency. You can't change some files,
and certify others, containing the same "error".


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At Fri Mar 30 18:25:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: novote
Comments:
they all can be incrementally fixed.
there is no need to make everything perfect in 1 go.

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At Sat Mar 31 20:15:00 2018, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: cwdee
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.


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