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0 _Minifig Torso Assembly with Han Solo Pattern (Complete)
0 Name: 4129554.dat
0 Author: Chris Dee [cwdee]
0 !LDRAW_ORG Unofficial_Shortcut
0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt

Status:
4 'hold' votes. (HHHHX)
Size: 548 bytes

Reviewers' certifications:

Steffen=hold
anathema=hold
cwdee=novote
dulcaoin=novote
mikeheide=hold
westrate=hold

Required (unofficial) subfiles:
(none)

Related (unofficial) files:
(none)

File reviews and updates:

At Tue Mar 20 07:00:11 2007, the file was initially submitted.
Submitted by: dulcaoin
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At Fri Jul 10 20:44:11 2009, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: novote
Comments:
did really whole minifig assemblies
get own part numbers by lego?

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At Thu Jun 17 20:05:04 2010, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: hold
Comments:
increasing to hold

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At Thu Jun 17 20:20:05 2010, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: hold
Comments:
I'm holding this especially because this file
would introduce a precedence case.
It contains the minifig head and the hands assembled.
99% of all other minifig bodies do not exist in such assemblies
in our collection yet.

Since minifigs do not come assembled in sets AFAIK,
I question the usefulness of this file.

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At Thu Jun 17 20:45:04 2010, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: anathema
Certification: hold
Comments:
I agree - I don't believe this 'part' should exist.


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At Thu Jun 17 21:30:05 2010, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: hold
Comments:
"Since minifigs do not come assembled in sets AFAIK,
I question the usefulness of this file."
I can not follow this. In all new instructions the assembly of torso, arms and hands do have a number. So I can believe also this. But I do not believe that the head is included in this number (HOLD resaon). Also this file is not BFC'ed.
Also it has to be Shortcut Physical_Colour! (HOLD reason).

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At Tue Oct 19 20:15:11 2010, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: hold
Comments:
I repeat my hold here.
Having such assemblies in our library will immediately
lead to a combinatoric explosion.
There are a million of minifig heads
and a bazillion of minifig bodies,
yielding a million x bazillion combination possibilities.
This is different to e.g. the Fabuland figures which
- come only in a handful fixed variants
- come preassembled
- are not intended to be disassembled

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At Wed Oct 20 23:25:03 2010, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: westrate
Certification: hold
Comments:
Since this is an actual Lego part number, I have no issue with the existence of this part. Holding because head shouldn't be included with it.

Also holding because the hands are at the wrong angle to the arms.

If the head isn't included (which it shouldn't be), there won't be millions of these parts. There will be only as many distinct combinations as LEGO assigns a part number to, which only amounts to a few dozen per year. And that is assuming that someone actually models the torso patterns required.


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At Thu Oct 21 19:25:04 2010, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: hold
Comments:
if the head is removed, you may be able to convince me as well

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At Thu Aug 30 03:45:03 2012, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: dulcaoin
Certification: novote
Comments:
Ironically, I don't even remember submitting this. That said, the head is (*properly*) included in this item ID. The part is from 2000, and TLG didn't start packaging heads separately until 2006. The VAST majority of item IDs that reference mini-figure upper parts are going to include the head. As for Item IDs, I actually don't think they should probably be in the LDRAW library, but if someone makes this without the head, I'd vote it down, because it would be completely wrong.

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At Thu Aug 30 05:20:03 2012, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: hold
Comments:
let's delete this, I suggest.

I see no real use of including hardcoded face+body assemblies in our library

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At Sat Sep 1 04:15:02 2012, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: dulcaoin
Certification: novote
Comments:
I meant to write that I don't believe Item IDs should be in the LDRAW library *in this form* (because the Design ID and Item ID domains have overlap). And your thoughts should be debated on the LDRAW forums, Steffen, not here on this one item ID.

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At Tue Sep 4 00:25:02 2012, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: dulcaoin
Certification: novote
Comments:
Finally, for the record, there are 1103 items in the TLG database (to my knowledge) that have this form. If that hurts, or helps.


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At Mon Mar 18 22:20:15 2013 a Parts Tracker Admin edited the header.
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At Mon Mar 18 22:20:17 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: cwdee
Certification: novote
Comments:
Changing authorship from Joshua Delahunty [dulcaoin] at Joshua's request.


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