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0 Ladder  2.6 x 16
0 Name: 15118.dat
0 Author: Max Martin Richter [MMR1988]
0 !LDRAW_ORG Unofficial_Part
0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt

0 BFC CERTIFY CCW

0 !HISTORY 2013-09-22 [MMR1988] Creation

0 // side (+z)

Status:
3 subfiles aren't certified. (SSSX)
Size: 8606 bytes

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Required (unofficial) subfiles:

parts/s/15118s01.dat

~Ladder 2.6 x 16 Step with Full Stop

Needs more votes. (X)

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parts/s/15118s02.dat

~Ladder 2.6 x 16 Step with Regular Stop

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parts/s/15118s03.dat

~Ladder 2.6 x 16 Step without Stop

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File reviews and updates:

At Sun Sep 22 08:05:04 2013, the file was initially submitted.
Submitted by: MMR1988
Comments:
This is just a quick Mockup from 4207. I'll rework it asap.

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At Sun Sep 22 09:25:02 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: hold
Comments:
So it should not be released in this shape :)

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At Sun Sep 22 09:50:02 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: hold
Comments:
Yes, that's true ;-)

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At Sun Sep 22 10:10:02 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: novote
Comments:
Are you also making 11299? It's the same ladder, but with handrails.


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At Sun Sep 22 10:45:02 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: hold
Comments:
I don't own both parts. The version without handrails is an easy task, because I can use the old ladder for all measures.
11299 would be possible by using the LDD content.
I have somewhere in my mind, that you collects the one and other fire brigade set, so if you have this part, feel free to build it. I try to upload 15118 in the next hours, so you can use the content of this file, if you want.

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At Sun Sep 22 11:50:03 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: hold
Comments:
I think, I have to rework 4207, too. The measurements aren't right at the old part :-( what to do now? If I upload it, with new measures, downwards compatibility isn't possible.

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At Sun Sep 22 12:40:03 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: Steffen
Certification: novote
Comments:
geometry errors in official parts always are a difficult problem.

if we should decide to keep downwards compatibility in such a case,
the current part XXXX.dat needs to be moved-to XXXXa.dat,
and that file needs to be obsoletized, and a new XXXXb.dat
needs to be issued, with the corrected geometry.

In the long run, this will clutter our library with plenty
of obsoletized, geometry-broken files,
in addition to the corrected ones.

IMHO it is very difficult to decide if that's the way to go.

The longer I think over this, I think that it would be better
to simply fix the geometry directly in the affected file.

Hmmm........



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At Sun Sep 22 13:45:02 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: arezey
Certification: novote
Comments:
I'd suggest a ~Moved to file with offsets.

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At Sun Sep 22 16:50:04 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: novote
Comments:
I'm intrigued, what is your major issues with 4207?


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At Sun Sep 22 17:40:06 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: novote
Comments:
I like to know that too!

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At Sun Sep 22 21:55:03 2013, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: MMR1988
Comments:
You can easily compare both parts now.
I did the measures on the old one, cause I don't own the new ones.
I'm totally unsure if the step order is correct. Please check with a real part, I will change it then, if necessary.

Existing certification-votes were deleted.
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At Mon Oct 21 22:10:03 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: hold
Comments:
Holding for overlapping quads.

I too don't have this new part, but I think something is wrong here.
Three of 4207, stacked on top of each other, should make 24 ldu high.
This new one doesn't stack to the same height.

IMO the difference isn't big enough to force a remake of the old ladder.
I would accept it, if this part was adapted to fit the old ladder 4207.


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At Tue Oct 22 07:25:02 2013, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: novote
Comments:
That's the problem neither the new nor the old part makes a 24 LDU high, when 3 of them are stacked together. (I don't have the parts by hand now, but my mind says, that the old ladder elements are modelled 0.333 mm to thick.) In my eyes this is enough to force a remake of the old one (btw: the subparts from the new ladder could be used there, so it's not a big task to recreate it.)

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At Sun Nov 3 17:00:05 2013, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: MMR1988
Comments:
Fixed overlapping quad problem...

Existing certification-votes were deleted.
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At Sun Nov 3 17:00:08 2013, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: MMR1988

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