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0 Hinge Arm 3 Finger without Ribs with Truncated Middle Finger 
0 Name: arm3.dat
0 Author: Max Martin Richter [MMR1988]
0 !LDRAW_ORG Unofficial_Primitive
0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt

0 BFC CERTIFY CCW

0 !HISTORY 2014-01-06 [MMR1988] Creation, based on reworked arm2

Status:
Certified! (ACCX)
Size: 7915 bytes

Reviewers' certifications:

MagFors=certify
cwdee=certify
mikeheide=certify

Required (unofficial) subfiles:
(none)

Related (unofficial) files:

parts/4220b.dat

Arm Piece with Grab Jaw Holder with Truncated Middle Finger

Certified! (ACCX)

Events

File reviews and updates:

At Sat Jan 4 22:15:03 2014, the file was initially submitted.
Submitted by: mikeheide
Comments:
Title is not the best, but I needed something to distinguish between arm2 and arm3.
The Comment from arm2 where the top curvature should be improved is also valid for this file.

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At Sat Jan 4 23:20:03 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: novote
Comments:
If we are going to update these connections we should also recall 30014.dat, 795.dat on the pt, so we can create also a primitive for that to have the connection details in every part.
Also the other parts that make use of arm1, arm2 and now arm3 needs to be carefully reviewed with the new designed primitive.

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At Sat Jan 4 23:40:04 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: novote
Comments:
Several quads could be combined...
I would prefer to add holes and bumps at rotation points of all arm prims...

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At Sat Jan 4 23:50:10 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: novote
Comments:
YES. Therefore i have searched already for all parts that do have this connection. There are more than we have already in the library - according to Bricklink (http://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?catType=P&catString=45)

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At Sun Jan 5 00:00:06 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: hold
Comments:
I was reworking your 4220 a bit and figured out, that the arm prim do not match our 16 sided prims. I think we should rework all these prims and parts, shouldn't we? Actually I can see gaps in almost all parts, were arm prims are used...

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At Sun Jan 5 08:35:01 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: novote
Comments:
"arm prim do not match our 16 sided prims."
I can not confirm this sentence. Yesterday I was going to recreate the three fingers, but it seems that they are ok.
Or do you talking about decimals accurance??

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At Sun Jan 5 11:25:04 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: hold
Comments:
Please have a look at this screenshot:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/MMR88/LDraw/arm_prim_zps77b97685.png

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At Sun Jan 5 11:30:06 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: novote
Comments:
Ok, decimals accurance :)
Those days nobody had tools like we have today. Only made vertex by vertex calculating in excel (if you have had it)!
So i think it's worth today to improve this. Are you going to do that?

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At Sun Jan 5 11:40:15 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: hold
Comments:
Yes, I'll do this...

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At Sun Jan 5 11:50:04 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: novote
Comments:
I just scrolled through the files from LDD and found 6047.dat and 6048.dat.
The middle finger on part 6047 is not formed according the cylinder on top, but it is flattened. At least on this part.
If I further look at http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=6217b there seems to be also the middle finger not following a complete curve.
I have not found other pictures so far for 3613, 6217a, 412, 3612 and 4220 to say that every middle finger is designed this way.
Maybe someone has these parts and can tell us.

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At Sun Jan 5 14:40:04 2014, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: MMR1988
Comments:
I'll change the other prims and related files, too. But first I have to do some real life tasks ;-)

Existing certification-votes were deleted.
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At Sun Jan 5 14:50:05 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: novote
Comments:
The question with the middle finger still exists!

Or do you have that parts on your table and there is really a three finger connection like this, where the middle finger has the same hight than the outer fingers?

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At Sun Jan 5 15:45:02 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: novote
Comments:
I based my work on this picture:
http://www.bricklink.com/PL/4220.jpg

Also this seems to be round:
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Lego-3612-4x-Technik-Scharnier-2Finger-3Finger-Blau-276-190-230-231-252-278-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqZ,!q!FCqZPKLmUBQ0Gb+gjOw~~60_35.JPG

I own only the new one with ribbed side - there it isn't round.
But I found also many pictures with non ribbed side and flat ended middle finger. So what should we do?

I have to create also arm4 and arm5 for the ribbed versions...

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At Sun Jan 5 16:35:07 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.

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At Sun Jan 5 17:05:08 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: certify
Comments:
"I own only the new one with ribbed side - there it isn't round.
But I found also many pictures with non ribbed side and flat ended middle finger. So what should we do?"
We need to create another arm.:)
Or we create different files arm-base1 with the edges between and arm-base2 with the edges at the fingers.

Best would be to have a global overview of the possibilities that we need. Based on that you can decide which way to go. If we create every time a new arm... we have a lot of lines that could be shared in one additional file.

"I have to create also arm4 and arm5 for the ribbed versions..."
Indeed.

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At Sun Jan 5 17:05:08 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: certify
Comments:
File is ok, but maybe it make sense to split this again in base and fingers. See also my comment on the reference part on the pt.

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At Sun Jan 5 17:20:06 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: novote
Comments:
For one moment I thought about an \p\s folder for this problem :-D

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At Sun Jan 5 17:25:02 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: certify
Comments:
No need for such a new directory. Please have a look at the axle primitives. It is not solved (from todays point of view) in best case, but as this connection type is discontinued now quite a while I think we should optimize the primitives for todays usage.

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At Sun Jan 5 20:50:04 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: hold
Comments:
I have to hold it for the moment, because the only part where it is used, is wrong modelled...

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At Sun Jan 5 21:30:04 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: hold
Comments:
For the moment I see no need for this primitive anymore...
(I'll continue work on the other arms, anyway)

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At Mon Jan 6 20:40:09 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MMR1988
Certification: hold
Comments:
@Mike: Can I overwrite this file with completely different content?

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At Mon Jan 6 22:00:11 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: hold
Comments:
Sure :)
It is not needed anymore.

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At Mon Jan 6 22:05:06 2014, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: MMR1988
Comments:
Et voila!

Existing certification-votes were deleted.
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At Mon Jan 6 22:20:04 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: novote
Comments:
Would like to cert, but without LDraw Username I can't.
Why not using DATHeader before upload ;)

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At Mon Jan 6 22:40:04 2014, a new version of the file was submitted.
Submitted by: MMR1988
Comments:
Hopefully I you haven't seen, that the history line was dated for the 96th January...

BTW: Datheader crashes, when I try to edit such a wrong dated history line.

Existing certification-votes were deleted.
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At Tue Jan 7 17:10:05 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: certify
Comments:
"BTW: Datheader crashes, when I try to edit such a wrong dated history line."

Important information!
But to be honest - crash is for me, app shuts down and all your work is lost. In this case at least on my system i only get an error message from net-framework. So, that is not good, but also no drama :)

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At Wed Jan 8 17:15:02 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: mikeheide
Certification: certify
Comments:
Just to tell you that the next version of DATHeader will substitude such not as date readable values with the current date.

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At Thu Jan 9 22:05:04 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: MagFors
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.

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At Fri Jan 10 05:55:04 2014 a Parts Tracker Admin edited the header.
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At Fri Jan 10 05:55:04 2014, the following review was posted:

Reviewer: cwdee
Certification: certify
No comments were posted with this review.


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